Armes, armoiries, blason..., a photo from Languedoc-Roussillon, South

Photographer's Note

Armes, armoiries, blason, йcu, йcusson... Autant de mots qui semblent bien souvent rigoureusement interchangeables, et que de nombreuses personnes – y compris certains historiens – utilisent pour dйsigner les mкmes choses.

C'est une erreur ; chacun de ces termes (а l'exception des mots armes et armoiries, synonymes) recouvre une rйalitй hйraldique diffйrente.

Armes : En hйraldique, synonyme d'armoiries ;

Armoiries : Ce sont des emblиmes en couleur, propres а une famille, а une communautй ou, plus rarement, а un individu, et soumis dans leur disposition et dans leur forme а des rиgles spйciales, qui sont celles du blason ;

Blason : Ensemble des signes distinctifs et emblиmes d'une famille noble, d'une collectivitй ;

Йcusson : Petite figure en forme d'йcu placй dans certaines armoiries ;

Йcu : L'йcu est une surface dйlimitйe, sur laquelle on place les armoiries. Il peut avoir des formes variables, la plus courante (mais non la seule) йtant un triangle isocиle, pointe en bas, et dont les deux cфtйs йgaux sont convexes. Cette derniиre forme, elle-mкme de proportions variables, est dite йcu classique.

Source : Godefroy de Nancey

Traduction par notre ami Chris :

"Arms, coat of arms, blazon, shield, Crest... So many words that often seem rigorously interchangeable, and that many people – including some historians – use to refer to the same things. It is a mistake; Each of these terms (with the exception of the words Arms and arms, synonyms) covers a different heraldic reality. Weapons: In heraldry, synonymous with arms; Coat of arms: they are emblems in colour, peculiar to a family, a community or, more rarely, to an individual, and subject in their layout and form to special rules, which are those of the coat of arms; Blazon: All the distinctive signs and emblems of a noble family, of a community; Crest: Small figure in the form of a shield placed in certain coats of arms; ECU: The ECU is a demarcated surface, on which the coat of arms is placed. It can have variable shapes, the most common (but not the only one) being a isosceles triangle, pointing downwards, and whose two equal sides are convex. The latter form, itself of varying proportions, is known as the classical ECU."

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lousat (139362) 2018-03-04 1:12

Bonjour Philippe,une page tres interessante de ton cours culturel sur les differents aspects du language,cette fois j'ai eu quelque difficulte' a comprendre bien mais heuresement il y a le traducteur...ehhee...notes curieuses et tres utiles,mais aussi un collage vraiment de haut niveau! Bon Dimanche et merci,Luciano

ChrisJ (171888) 2018-03-04 1:14

Salut Phillipe

I did a quick translation for you. And to assist in my critique:

"Arms, coat of arms, blazon, shield, Crest... So many words that often seem rigorously interchangeable, and that many people – including some historians – use to refer to the same things.

It is a mistake; Each of these terms (with the exception of the words Arms and arms, synonyms) covers a different heraldic reality.

Weapons: In heraldry, synonymous with arms;

Coat of arms: they are emblems in colour, peculiar to a family, a community or, more rarely, to an individual, and subject in their layout and form to special rules, which are those of the coat of arms;

Blazon: All the distinctive signs and emblems of a noble family, of a community;

Crest: Small figure in the form of a shield placed in certain coats of arms;

ECU: The ECU is a demarcated surface, on which the coat of arms is placed. It can have variable shapes, the most common (but not the only one) being a isosceles triangle, pointing downwards, and whose two equal sides are convex. The latter form, itself of varying proportions, is known as the classical ECU."

A superb montage illustrating the differences in each of these terms. Good sharpess and the colorful red flowers in the lower image add life. Tfs!

mesutilgim (0) 2018-03-04 1:22

Hello Philippe,
Very nice picturepack with those interesting details which we normally and often do not notice.
Interesting and usefull notes.
TFS and have a nice weekend
MESUT ILGIM

pajaran (116065) 2018-03-04 1:47

Dobar dan.
Danas smo komsije sa fotografijama na TE.
Interesantan i lep pogled, dobar tekst ...
Dobar rad sa vise fotografija, lepo pokazano mesto i detalji na arhitekturi, dobra kontrast i ostrina, lepe boje.
Lepo dvoriste sa cvecem i detalji na arhitekturi.
Zelim vam lep daan za odmor, sve najbolje.
Paja.

snunney (130967) 2018-03-04 2:06

Hello Philippe,
An interesting set of images, which together with your informative note tells something about the history of heraldry. Excellent presentation that more than adequately fulfils the aims of TE. Bon dimanche.

holmertz (102846) 2018-03-04 3:06

Hello Philippe,
This is a fine collection of photos from the beautiful medieval church or monastery. The smaller upper photos show fantastic details and the large picture is a very pleasant view of the well kept garden. This is a place I would have liked to see with my own eyes.
Kind regards,
Gert

Silvio1953 (221781) 2018-03-04 3:55

Ciao caro Philippe, beautiful collqage, in each photo, eccellent clarity, wonderful colors, fine details and splendid light, very well done, my friend, ciao Silvio

pierrefonds (114608) 2018-03-04 4:49

Bonjour Philippe,

La combinaison des quatre photos permet de voir les dйtails du jardins, des armoiries, des blasons et des armes. La nettetй est trиs bonne. Les couleurs sont excellentes. Bon dimanche.

Pierre

Fis2 (170945) 2018-03-04 5:43

Witaj Philippe!
Ciekawe miejsce.
Interesuj±cy collage, detale robi± wraїenie.
Dobre kadry i kolory.
Miіego popoіudnia.
Krzysztof

jean113 (27899) 2018-03-04 8:49

Bonjour Philippe, an excellent collection of pictures.
I paricularly like the close-up shots of the architectural details.
You give us a lovely impression of this place.
Thanks for sharing, regards Jean.

Nicou (193806) 2018-03-04 9:37

Hello

avec ce jardin et ce haie verte en premier plan et les fleurs rouges qui donnent la touche de couelur quelle compo et vue quelle iamge cet armoirie ces ddйtail des archesquel ensemble arfait sueprbe
Bravo et amitiй
Ncioup

adramad (73030) 2018-03-04 11:15

Bonsoir cher Philippe.
Une merveilleuse composition, avec ces quatre images, formant un beau mйlange, coin idйal de ce cloоtre et trois beaux dйtails ci-dessus.
Magnifique composition et couleur.
Excellente luminositй.
Bien fait. J'aime la photo
Bonne semaine.
Salutations trиs cordiales.
Luis.

ribeiroantonio (22730) 2018-03-04 17:25

Bonjour Philippe,

Merci pour la leзon d'hйraldique. J'aime bien la composition photographique.

Salut,

Antonio

rychem (72187) 2018-03-04 20:17

Very nice collage of photos of different details, coats of arms, small figures, carved faces, they remind you of people from ancient times, very well done
regards Ryszard

Tue (92548) 2018-03-04 22:56

Bonjour Philippe,
Four wonderful photos of this place. The close-up photos of the beautiful and so old stone carvings on the upper left and upper right hand side are fantastic. The bright light on the green hedges and the red flowers is most appealing as well.
Lars

emka (158204) 2018-03-04 23:10

Hello Philippe, Good idea of the collage, when there are some details that we would like to show and the people do not look art Workshops so often. Lovely courtyard with Buxus semper virens and geraniums.

Kind regrad s MAlgo

jemaflor (147300) 2018-03-04 23:14

Salut Philippe,
un trиs bel ensemble architectural avec les prйsentatins de ces dйtails et un beau collage bien rйalisй, intйressante(s) photo(s), merci du partage.

jhm (211736) 2018-03-05 4:24

Bonjour, mon ami Philippe,

We get four nice picture, the big picture withflowers bringt colour and pleasant to look at.
Composition and presentation are superb.
Very well done, TFS.

Amitiйs et bonne semaine,
John.

Cricri (176) 2018-03-05 7:59